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far we heard assad evil, rebels good. now things look much more complicated and more civilians end up dieing from this violence that keeps going back and forth. bill: what are the reports of those killed since this war started? >> reporter: you are talking north of 20,000 people, bill. not only do you have the people killed. you have the civilians and four or five,000 syrian soldiers and syrian rebels killed. but hundreds of thousands of refugees, people who left their homes with only the clothes on their back in turkey. we are now approaching winter up on the northern border of syria. it is going to get very, very tough for these syrian refugees who are now in these tents as winter sets in. we are talking about temperatures now in the 20s. and also snow in the northern mountains in syria. bill: thank you, leland. leland vittert live in jerusalem. jamie: president obama and governor mitt romney are set to square off in their first face-to-face debate. megyn kelly will join us live with new polling. bill: there is a manhunt for the killer of this border patrol agent? arizona. >> he was
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